02/22/1995 08:04 AM House RES

 HRES - 02/22/95                                                               
 CSSJR 6(RES) - TRANSFER FEDERAL LAND TO POST-1802 STATES                    
                                                                               
 Number 105                                                                    
                                                                               
 JOE AMBROSE, AIDE, SENATOR ROBIN TAYLOR, PRIME SPONSOR, stated the            
 idea of the resolution goes back to what has become a federal                 
 doctoring of public domain and in the process resulted in 22 states           
 of the Union not on equal footing with the remaining states because           
 they do not own the property within their borders.  He said in                
 response to a question at the last hearing, a zero fiscal note                
 approved by the Senate has been provided to committee members.                
                                                                               
 Number 120                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BARNES said the military bases in Alaska include               
 many acres of land.  She clarified under this resolution it will be           
 suggested that the federal government buy the land presently held             
 for military bases.                                                           
                                                                               
 MR. AMBROSE replied yes.  He noted the Constitution provides for              
 the sale of property for arsenals, forts, and other needful                   
 buildings to the federal government with the consent of the                   
 legislature.                                                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BARNES stated she would like to see that happen but            
 with the military shutting down bases all over the country, she               
 would not want to ask the federal government to buy the land from             
 the state because she is afraid the federal government would shut             
 down those military bases.                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. AMBROSE said there was a bill introduced in the last session of           
 Congress which started this process and provided for the return of            
 federal holdings within the states with exceptions such as military           
 bases and national parks.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 164                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE MACLEAN expressed opposition to CSSJR 6(RES) because           
 she feels it is a back door approach to attack the subsistence                
 problem.  She said she would rather have the federal government               
 taking care of the state's subsistence on navigable waters rather             
 than the state, in light of the fact that the state legislature is            
 not even willing to consider a constitutional amendment to                    
 subsistence.                                                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES stated the fiscal note given to committee               
 members is not responsive to the question he asked at the last                
 hearing on CSSJR 6 as it is an estimate for fiscal year 1996 only.            
 He cannot conceive that anyone would conclude that there are no               
 costs associated with this resolution.  He stressed this fiscal               
 note does not represent reality in respect to the proposal.                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BARNES made a MOTION to MOVE CSSJR 6(RES) with                 
 accompanying zero fiscal note out of committee with individual                
 recommendations.                                                              
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE NICHOLIA OBJECTED.                                             
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN asked for a roll call vote.  Voting in favor of             
 the motion were Representatives Austerman, Kott, Ogan, Barnes,                
 Williams, and Green.  Voting against the motion were                          
 Representatives MacLean, Davies, and Nicholia.  The MOTION PASSED             
 6-3.